10-16-2021, 11:48 PM
(10-14-2021, 07:49 PM)Detective Osprey Wrote: "Animals are stupid" bullcrap. Sorry, I'm just tired of hearing this.Aaand just to show that overcorrection is a thing, troodontids and dromaeosaurids probably most likely could not figure out how to drive cars or open doors as some more fantastical portrayals(i.e. Jurassic Park) would have them do. Even if a dinosaur by some miracle became smart as a human, there's no reason to assume it would look human. So if you're chased by a raptor, remember to just slam the door in its face.I don't mean to sound aggressive... it's just frustrating, as someone that loves all animals, to hear these things. :<
"Chickens are stupid." Nope. They aren't. Here's why.
-"Chickens are behaviourally sophisticated, discriminating among individuals, exhibiting Machiavellian-like social interactions, and learning socially in complex ways that are similar to humans."
Lori Marino, Neuroscientist
-"As a trick at conferences I sometimes list {their} attributes, without mentioning chickens, and people think I'm talking about monkeys."
Dr Chris Evans, Professor of Psychology, Macquaries University, Australia
"Sheep are stupid." Again, no, they are not. Here's why:
-"The popular stereotype is that sheep are docile, passive, unintelligent, and timid, but a review of the research on their behavior, affect, cognition, and personality reveals that they are complex, individualistic, and social."
-"Sheep have excellent general memory and learning abilities. Lambs show robust spatial memory (Nowack et al. 1994); they are able to learn basic tasks in as few as two trials (Bremmer, Baggins, & Kilgour 1980). Other studies show that sheep perform well on visual discrimination tasks (Morris et al. 2010; Sugnaseelan et al. 2013); under some circumstances, however, auditory discriminations might be more difficult (Morris et al. 2010)."
Lori Marino and Debra Merskin
"Fish are stupid." Again, this is very wrong. They simply aren't stupid. At all.
"They [goldfish] ignored everybody else and they knew that in the morning when I came to feed them I’d put the food in a particular spot and they’d be there waiting," he says. "It was pretty obvious to me, even as a kid, that they were much smarter than people thought."
"An aspect of intelligence that has long interested Culum has been the way fish learn and remember. One experiment he did on rainbowfish, a popular aquarium species endemic to Australia and Papua New Guinea, involved a net that moved from one end of a fish tank to the other. The net had a single hole in it; to avoid getting trapped, the fish needed to find the hole quickly.
"It took them only five goes to master the test. Furthermore, larger groups did better than smaller ones, suggesting they learn from each other via a process known as social learning. And, even though rainbowfish live for only two years, the test fish still remembered the skill 11 months later."
Professor Culum Brown
"Sadly, the general poor perception of fish intelligence is not restricted to the broader public but it is also deeply imbedded in scientific dogma and can be traced back to the very beginnings of scientific investigation in the western world. The scientific study of animal brains and behavior (and by proxy intelligence) has been dogged by the deep rooted notion that the evolution of vertebrates follows a linear progression from inferior to superior forms, culminating in humans at the apex."
Culum Brown (link to his paper)
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