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Does a hit song really need 9 writers?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48395059

Rudimental's uplifting dance track These Days has been named the most-performed song of 2018 at the prestigious Ivor Novello Awards.

A major international hit, it topped charts across Europe, and became the UK's fifth best-selling single of 2018.

But their prize had to be shared between nine writers - a phenomenon that's become increasingly common.

According to research by Music Week, it took an average of 5.34 people to write last year's Top 100 biggest singles.

That's up from 4.84 in 2017, and 4.53 the year before. So what's going on?



I guess some of this is just credits being handed out to everybody who might otherwise sue them; however, I suspect that doesn't tell the whole story here. It does seem as though songwriting teams are getting more prevalent than individual writers.

Do the songs benefit from this, though? It's hard to see this: in my opinion, current music (with more average writers) isn't any nicer to listen to. Then again, while an individual writer can write a wonderful piece of music, I guess it might be harder for them to sustain that level for piece after piece - so, perhaps that's where the teams come in...
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Oh there is definitely more people being given credit so they don't sue these days. Humans as a whole are getting increasingly more sue-happy and demanding more credit for less work.  I feel like there's also fewer solo artists and more people joining bands, therefore songs being more of a group effort.

Or maybe people are just clout hungry and less able to write popular music by themselves. XD
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There is two issues now 1) Sampling is a big part of the rap/hip hop scene and it has moved in to pop music.
2) Even if there isn't sampling, there is only a finite amount of musical notes that sounds good together and as such songs often use the same cord progressions... as shown here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOlDewpCfZQ (Axis of Awesome - 4 cords)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM (Rob P - Pachelbel Rant)

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People really should write their own songs rather than let someone in the corner doing the work for them. I think if memory serves me. the Dweeber's "hit" song had like eight writers. But even so, the writing content in that one is just dreadful as we all know.
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I think that songwriting is part of the creative, musical singing realm but not every singer can write music. Likewise, not every songwriter can produce amazing music. Although they are skills and capabilities that do come hand in hand with each other, there definitely isn’t a necessity to be able to both. Someone could be a breathtaking singer but not be able to produce their own lyrics or chords, which is perfectly acceptable. Of course though, if you write your own material it can be more personal so more raw emotion can be put into the song. That would probably improve the quality of the time. 

I know plenty of singers that have produced excellent material, such as Halsey, Demi Lovato, Billie Eilish and Yungblud. I know that Halsey has written a lot of songs based on really personal experiences (which is one of the many reasons I love her). However, I am not sure if anyone else edited these songs after they’d been written. I would assume that there a process where they were reviewed by the record label or whatever. Either way, the main ideas are still composed by a core writer in this situation. 

As an observation, I think that a lot of songwriters that do not perform the actual music are often not credited enough. Everyone knows who sang a song but they won’t always see or know about the behind the scenes stuff. A lot of listeners probably don’t care about who actually wrote it. They probably are more interested in whether they like the song or not. 

Nine writers isn't essential for a hit. However, a consensus of trained professionals in the field approving a song does increase the chances of the song being a hit. At the end of the day, the music and the voice must also fit the lyrics.
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