Livyatan
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Livyatan melvillei
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This sperm whale is what nightmares are made of. Known from Miocene Peru ~10-9 Mya and with tentative material elsewhere, this was a terrifying prehistoric sea monster. Named after the Biblical sea monster Leviathan albeit with the Hebrew spelling and thanks to the excavators being Moby Dick fans, after the author of Moby Dick himself Hermann Melville. Livyatan was about as large as a common sperm whale at ~17.5 meters long and weighing ~57 tonnes but it was more like its fellow extinct physeteroids with huge jaws of sharp teeth lining both rows more like a macro predatory whale like an orca or false killer whale but blown to super size. So that proves fiction 0, science 1 in scariness! It’s impossible to prove if Livyatan had sexual dimorphism like today’s cetaceans. 
Livyatan was an apex predator in the Miocene oceans. Few creatures were safe from its savage jaws. Cetotheres like Piscobalaena, pinnipeds like Piscophoca, sea dinosaurs like Pelagornis, and even the sloth Thalassocnus were just some of many prey for this giant sea monster. Fellow toothed whales who were predators in their own right like Brachydelphis and Acrophyseter were prey too. Livyatan would’ve also loved fish for food including sharks. Diving underwater to ambush prey from below is a reasonable hypothesis for Livyatan’s hunting method. It would no doubt have faced competition from Otodus megalodon although there probably was enough food to keep things calm. But if there wasn’t or if they crossed into each other’s territory, the fights would’ve been spectacular to witness.
It’s a reasonable guess Livyatan bore one calf at a time. Pregnancy periods are unclear but they can be guessed at based on the sperm whale so about a year. Livyatan likely lived for many decades. Pod life is unknown and given the immense difficulty in finding enough food for a whole pod, one might assume Livyatan was solitary. The function of the spermaceti organ is unknown and it’s unlikely to be for deep sea diving given Livyatan hunted prey closer to the surface or shallows. 
It’s unclear how these giants went extinct although their extinction coincided with mass extinctions of baleen whales and the rise of predatory delphinids and sharks although they could easily have just been benefactors of the extinction of Livyatan.
Livyatan hasn’t appeared much in popular culture despite its impressiveness. It’s appeared in some online documentaries like The jaws of the Livyatan. Julian Johnson-mortimer has made some animation featuring the whale’s rivalry with Megalodon. Forums that have vs battles will no doubt include Livyatan vs Megalodon.
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This whale would so make marines faint in terror.
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(10-18-2024, 04:59 AM)JHG Wrote: This whale would so make marines faint in terror.

Certainly would :) !

Would be nice to see this in pop culture a bit more: due to its impressive size, it would certainly be at home in a Finding Nemo sequel, or something like that!
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(10-19-2024, 06:24 PM)Kyng Wrote:
(10-18-2024, 04:59 AM)JHG Wrote: This whale would so make marines faint in terror.

Certainly would :) !

Would be nice to see this in pop culture a bit more: due to its impressive size, it would certainly be at home in a Finding Nemo sequel, or something like that!

Only if there was Miocene time travel; Finding Nemo is too contemporary in setting.
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(10-21-2024, 05:20 PM)JHG Wrote:
(10-19-2024, 06:24 PM)Kyng Wrote:
(10-18-2024, 04:59 AM)JHG Wrote: This whale would so make marines faint in terror.

Certainly would :) !

Would be nice to see this in pop culture a bit more: due to its impressive size, it would certainly be at home in a Finding Nemo sequel, or something like that!

Only if there was Miocene time travel; Finding Nemo is too contemporary in setting.

Good point :P . Though, I imagine it'd be possible to set a similar sort of story in that era!
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There's also speculation Monstro in Pinocchio(film only) is a Livyatan although Livyatan wasn't known when the film was released.
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(11-08-2024, 12:45 AM)JHG Wrote: There's also speculation Monstro in Pinocchio(film only) is a Livyatan although Livyatan wasn't known when the film was released.

Oh wow, I just looked it up, and it wasn't described until 2010 :O . Much newer than I thought.

I guess that's another reason why we haven't seen it much in pop culture: it hasn't had the opportunity to appear in much yet. Heck, even Finding Nemo is from before it was known :lol: !
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