[OLD NEWS] Bill Cosby Found Guilty

[queenzelda]

NORRISTOWN, Pa. — A jury found Bill Cosby guilty Thursday of drugging and sexually assaulting a woman at his home near here 14 years ago, capping the downfall of one of the world’s best-known entertainers, and offering a measure of satisfaction to the dozens of women who for years have accused him of similar assaults against them.

On the second day of its deliberations at the Montgomery County Courthouse in this town northwest of Philadelphia, the jury returned to convict Mr. Cosby of three counts of aggravated indecent assault against Andrea Constand, at the time a Temple University employee he had mentored.

The three counts — penetration with lack of consent, penetration while unconscious and penetration after administering an intoxicant — are felonies, each punishable by up to 10 years in state prison, though the sentences could be served concurrently. (More here.)

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Idk, is it bad that I kind of feel sorry for poor old Bill Cosby? I mean I doubt he's going to live for very long in jail, he looks frail as is. I know my opinion might not be how a lot of people reacted to this news, but I do feel bad for him. 

Since he was found guilty,  he's since been expelled from the Oscars academy as well:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43994591

Cosby has also lost a lot of his recieved scollarly degree's through 12 colleges as well, since most of them voted against his keeping thier given degree. Though according to one report I found some colleges are refusing to revoke the degree they gave him: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015...ry-degrees

[Oscar]

I mean I'm all for believing the victim, but there has got to be some evidence. I feel like that it was lacking in this case which will undoubtedly lead to an appeal won by Cosby. You can't convict someone on feeling. Though if there is evidence I missed I'm open to changing my mind.

[Eremurus]

I mean I'm all for believing the victim, but there has got to be some evidence. I feel like that it was lacking in this case which will undoubtedly lead to an appeal won by Cosby. You can't convict someone on feeling. Though if there is evidence I missed I'm open to changing my mind.

Dude plead guilty to the charges.

[Oscar]

I mean I'm all for believing the victim, but there has got to be some evidence. I feel like that it was lacking in this case which will undoubtedly lead to an appeal won by Cosby. You can't convict someone on feeling. Though if there is evidence I missed I'm open to changing my mind.

Dude plead guilty to the charges. 

Uh no? His defense team is appealing. Why would they do that if he plead guilty?

[Eremurus]

I mean I'm all for believing the victim, but there has got to be some evidence. I feel like that it was lacking in this case which will undoubtedly lead to an appeal won by Cosby. You can't convict someone on feeling. Though if there is evidence I missed I'm open to changing my mind.

Dude plead guilty to the charges.   

Uh no? His defense team is appealing. Why would they do that if he plead guilty?  

https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/07/us/bill-c...index.html

Oh. 2+2=4.

[Oscar]

Dude plead guilty to the charges.   

Uh no? His defense team is appealing. Why would they do that if he plead guilty?  

https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/07/us/bill-c...index.html

Oh. 2+2=4.

Did you even read that article? He admitted to obtaining drugs to give to women he wanted to have relations with. However, he did not admit to actually giving drugs to said women.

While Cosby admitted that he acquired seven prescriptions of Quaaludes with the intent to give the sedatives to young women he wanted to have sex with, he has not admitted to actually drugging any of his accusers.

He also did not plead guilty.

[Eremurus]

Uh no? His defense team is appealing. Why would they do that if he plead guilty?  

https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/07/us/bill-c...index.html

Oh. 2+2=4.    

Did you even read that article? He admitted to obtaining drugs to give to women he wanted to have relations with. However, he did not admit to actually giving drugs to said women.

While Cosby admitted that he acquired seven prescriptions of Quaaludes with the intent to give the sedatives to young women he wanted to have sex with, he has not admitted to actually drugging any of his accusers.

He also did not plead guilty.    

He obtained drugs, with the intent of raping them, and on top of that, women have come forward? He admits all this, despite his lawyers advising him not to.

"Yeah, definitely, your Honor- I just gave these women powerful sedatives- but nah, I totally didn't rape them, and I'm not just saying that because I face a life sentence if I admit it. I just wanted to cuddle, sir."

But okay okay, he didn't formally admit it in a court of law, but does he even have to? Cosby is a rapist.

[Kyng]

But okay okay, he didn't formally admit it in a court of law, but does he even have to?

You're the one who originally claimed that he did, in your initial post in this thread. Oscar was merely responding to (and refuting) your claim.  

I agree that it's entirely reasonable to suspect that Cosby was guilty; however, the point Oscar was challenging you on was whether or not he pleaded guilty in a court of law - which, he hasn't. That doesn't mean Oscar is trying to defend Cosby here or claim that he's innocent.

Now, are we all agreed that, while Cosby is probably guilty of sexually assaulting these women, he hasn't actually admitted to doing so? If so, then we can move on from this point and continue with the rest of the discussion .

[Eremurus]

But okay okay, he didn't formally admit it in a court of law, but does he even have to?

You're the one who originally claimed that he did, in your initial post in this thread. Oscar was merely responding to your claim.  

Okay, guess I'll break it down further- whatever.

Cosby incriminated himself. You realize that's what admissions of guilt does, correct? You do understand this is a very common tactic for people to use? They *say* one thing, but it's just to deflect and minimize involvement. "I was there, your Honor- but I didn't pull the trigger!" 

It's the same thing. If the dude didn't snitch on himself, I wouldn't be so adamant about his guilt.

[Kyng]

Yeah, I understand that he basically incriminated himself. I'm certainly not trying to defend Cosby here: after all, even obtaining drugs with the intent to commit sexual assault - which, as you rightly pointed out, he has admitted to - makes him a disgusting person. Not to mention, it makes any defence that he might provide a lot harder to believe: if there's some innocent explanation here, then it had better be compelling. 

But, in any case, I do hope the courts are able to get the facts straight and make their judgement based on those. I really don't want to see him winning the appeal just because of fame or popular opinion.